Co-worker sabotaging/undoing my work. (Software Development)












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Context:
I just got hired as a software developer in a team which has freshly transitioned from networking to development. Before me they hired another developer a year ago who has been since then given a senior role, he is the only other developer by background in that team. This senior dev and I have graduated from same college and program as well, and this is also our both first job, only difference being he graduated from college before me being older than me. I am saying this to explain how much of a difference he and I have in professional experience.
Our manager is not technical, therefore he is one of those "I care about how much money did it save the company."



Problem:
Because of him being the only dev in the team for more than a year, no one challenged his opinions and ideas on how processes should work. When I joined the team, I saw a team not using Git/GitHub correctly or straight up not using it, no documentation, pushing code directly to production boxes, no collaboration, manual if some testing. (Things are not that bad, the team is learning and they realized they aren't following the best practices.)



When I joined, as in any other team, I started putting my ideas forward, but I am always met with a condescending response ("Do you even know insert given topic") by this senior dev. The rest of the team & manager just side with senior, when I asked them why, the conversation went somewhat like this:



Me: Why do you think this is okay?



Team & manager: He is senior and he knows more.



Me: Why do you think he knows more?



Team & manager: Dude, he uses Linux as his dev environment, he knows a lot.



(That Linux comment actually happened.)



So, I decided to stop getting myself insulted and just do my own thing until maybe more developers are hired and/or we get a technical manager. However, recently I was told to collaborate with this senior on a project, as usual he denied my ideas...which was okay, I decided to play by his rules(not worth my time) until I recently saw my branches and commits being deleted because he had something else in plan, which was not communicated to anyone.



I am still on probation and don't want to cause a drama but it's getting hard not to.










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    How do you become a senior developer with 1 year of experience? That alone sounds like a red flag.

    – Joe W
    4 hours ago






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    You are catching close votes. I am inclined to agree with them. What is your goal? Can you state it clearly? Otherwise this is just a rant.

    – bruglesco
    3 hours ago











  • Welcome to software development. There are a lot of people like this out there - they use a lot of words to obfuscate that they're not good programmers. Just be aware that there are a lot of good programmers out there too. The trick I think, is to use the interview as your chance to test the quality of the tech lead/senior you're working under. Ask them some technical questions.

    – dwjohnston
    3 hours ago













  • Are you collaborating at all with this senior on this project? Or are you both just doing your own thing?

    – DaveG
    1 hour ago











  • This doesn't surprise me. But if he has the rest of the team and mgmnt behind him, you're not going to be able to do much but dig yourself a hole. This is very common, like others have mentioned. And, since it's your first job, you're probably wrong some of the time, which is only going to hurt you even more. So, realistically your options are a. Leave b. Get on board and join the rest of the team c. Save mgmt more money than he does. Time on the job doing b or c will be the only ways you're going to get around this guy. That's just the way it is.

    – John Halbert
    1 hour ago


















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Context:
I just got hired as a software developer in a team which has freshly transitioned from networking to development. Before me they hired another developer a year ago who has been since then given a senior role, he is the only other developer by background in that team. This senior dev and I have graduated from same college and program as well, and this is also our both first job, only difference being he graduated from college before me being older than me. I am saying this to explain how much of a difference he and I have in professional experience.
Our manager is not technical, therefore he is one of those "I care about how much money did it save the company."



Problem:
Because of him being the only dev in the team for more than a year, no one challenged his opinions and ideas on how processes should work. When I joined the team, I saw a team not using Git/GitHub correctly or straight up not using it, no documentation, pushing code directly to production boxes, no collaboration, manual if some testing. (Things are not that bad, the team is learning and they realized they aren't following the best practices.)



When I joined, as in any other team, I started putting my ideas forward, but I am always met with a condescending response ("Do you even know insert given topic") by this senior dev. The rest of the team & manager just side with senior, when I asked them why, the conversation went somewhat like this:



Me: Why do you think this is okay?



Team & manager: He is senior and he knows more.



Me: Why do you think he knows more?



Team & manager: Dude, he uses Linux as his dev environment, he knows a lot.



(That Linux comment actually happened.)



So, I decided to stop getting myself insulted and just do my own thing until maybe more developers are hired and/or we get a technical manager. However, recently I was told to collaborate with this senior on a project, as usual he denied my ideas...which was okay, I decided to play by his rules(not worth my time) until I recently saw my branches and commits being deleted because he had something else in plan, which was not communicated to anyone.



I am still on probation and don't want to cause a drama but it's getting hard not to.










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    How do you become a senior developer with 1 year of experience? That alone sounds like a red flag.

    – Joe W
    4 hours ago






  • 1





    You are catching close votes. I am inclined to agree with them. What is your goal? Can you state it clearly? Otherwise this is just a rant.

    – bruglesco
    3 hours ago











  • Welcome to software development. There are a lot of people like this out there - they use a lot of words to obfuscate that they're not good programmers. Just be aware that there are a lot of good programmers out there too. The trick I think, is to use the interview as your chance to test the quality of the tech lead/senior you're working under. Ask them some technical questions.

    – dwjohnston
    3 hours ago













  • Are you collaborating at all with this senior on this project? Or are you both just doing your own thing?

    – DaveG
    1 hour ago











  • This doesn't surprise me. But if he has the rest of the team and mgmnt behind him, you're not going to be able to do much but dig yourself a hole. This is very common, like others have mentioned. And, since it's your first job, you're probably wrong some of the time, which is only going to hurt you even more. So, realistically your options are a. Leave b. Get on board and join the rest of the team c. Save mgmt more money than he does. Time on the job doing b or c will be the only ways you're going to get around this guy. That's just the way it is.

    – John Halbert
    1 hour ago
















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Context:
I just got hired as a software developer in a team which has freshly transitioned from networking to development. Before me they hired another developer a year ago who has been since then given a senior role, he is the only other developer by background in that team. This senior dev and I have graduated from same college and program as well, and this is also our both first job, only difference being he graduated from college before me being older than me. I am saying this to explain how much of a difference he and I have in professional experience.
Our manager is not technical, therefore he is one of those "I care about how much money did it save the company."



Problem:
Because of him being the only dev in the team for more than a year, no one challenged his opinions and ideas on how processes should work. When I joined the team, I saw a team not using Git/GitHub correctly or straight up not using it, no documentation, pushing code directly to production boxes, no collaboration, manual if some testing. (Things are not that bad, the team is learning and they realized they aren't following the best practices.)



When I joined, as in any other team, I started putting my ideas forward, but I am always met with a condescending response ("Do you even know insert given topic") by this senior dev. The rest of the team & manager just side with senior, when I asked them why, the conversation went somewhat like this:



Me: Why do you think this is okay?



Team & manager: He is senior and he knows more.



Me: Why do you think he knows more?



Team & manager: Dude, he uses Linux as his dev environment, he knows a lot.



(That Linux comment actually happened.)



So, I decided to stop getting myself insulted and just do my own thing until maybe more developers are hired and/or we get a technical manager. However, recently I was told to collaborate with this senior on a project, as usual he denied my ideas...which was okay, I decided to play by his rules(not worth my time) until I recently saw my branches and commits being deleted because he had something else in plan, which was not communicated to anyone.



I am still on probation and don't want to cause a drama but it's getting hard not to.










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Context:
I just got hired as a software developer in a team which has freshly transitioned from networking to development. Before me they hired another developer a year ago who has been since then given a senior role, he is the only other developer by background in that team. This senior dev and I have graduated from same college and program as well, and this is also our both first job, only difference being he graduated from college before me being older than me. I am saying this to explain how much of a difference he and I have in professional experience.
Our manager is not technical, therefore he is one of those "I care about how much money did it save the company."



Problem:
Because of him being the only dev in the team for more than a year, no one challenged his opinions and ideas on how processes should work. When I joined the team, I saw a team not using Git/GitHub correctly or straight up not using it, no documentation, pushing code directly to production boxes, no collaboration, manual if some testing. (Things are not that bad, the team is learning and they realized they aren't following the best practices.)



When I joined, as in any other team, I started putting my ideas forward, but I am always met with a condescending response ("Do you even know insert given topic") by this senior dev. The rest of the team & manager just side with senior, when I asked them why, the conversation went somewhat like this:



Me: Why do you think this is okay?



Team & manager: He is senior and he knows more.



Me: Why do you think he knows more?



Team & manager: Dude, he uses Linux as his dev environment, he knows a lot.



(That Linux comment actually happened.)



So, I decided to stop getting myself insulted and just do my own thing until maybe more developers are hired and/or we get a technical manager. However, recently I was told to collaborate with this senior on a project, as usual he denied my ideas...which was okay, I decided to play by his rules(not worth my time) until I recently saw my branches and commits being deleted because he had something else in plan, which was not communicated to anyone.



I am still on probation and don't want to cause a drama but it's getting hard not to.







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    How do you become a senior developer with 1 year of experience? That alone sounds like a red flag.

    – Joe W
    4 hours ago






  • 1





    You are catching close votes. I am inclined to agree with them. What is your goal? Can you state it clearly? Otherwise this is just a rant.

    – bruglesco
    3 hours ago











  • Welcome to software development. There are a lot of people like this out there - they use a lot of words to obfuscate that they're not good programmers. Just be aware that there are a lot of good programmers out there too. The trick I think, is to use the interview as your chance to test the quality of the tech lead/senior you're working under. Ask them some technical questions.

    – dwjohnston
    3 hours ago













  • Are you collaborating at all with this senior on this project? Or are you both just doing your own thing?

    – DaveG
    1 hour ago











  • This doesn't surprise me. But if he has the rest of the team and mgmnt behind him, you're not going to be able to do much but dig yourself a hole. This is very common, like others have mentioned. And, since it's your first job, you're probably wrong some of the time, which is only going to hurt you even more. So, realistically your options are a. Leave b. Get on board and join the rest of the team c. Save mgmt more money than he does. Time on the job doing b or c will be the only ways you're going to get around this guy. That's just the way it is.

    – John Halbert
    1 hour ago
















  • 2





    How do you become a senior developer with 1 year of experience? That alone sounds like a red flag.

    – Joe W
    4 hours ago






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    You are catching close votes. I am inclined to agree with them. What is your goal? Can you state it clearly? Otherwise this is just a rant.

    – bruglesco
    3 hours ago











  • Welcome to software development. There are a lot of people like this out there - they use a lot of words to obfuscate that they're not good programmers. Just be aware that there are a lot of good programmers out there too. The trick I think, is to use the interview as your chance to test the quality of the tech lead/senior you're working under. Ask them some technical questions.

    – dwjohnston
    3 hours ago













  • Are you collaborating at all with this senior on this project? Or are you both just doing your own thing?

    – DaveG
    1 hour ago











  • This doesn't surprise me. But if he has the rest of the team and mgmnt behind him, you're not going to be able to do much but dig yourself a hole. This is very common, like others have mentioned. And, since it's your first job, you're probably wrong some of the time, which is only going to hurt you even more. So, realistically your options are a. Leave b. Get on board and join the rest of the team c. Save mgmt more money than he does. Time on the job doing b or c will be the only ways you're going to get around this guy. That's just the way it is.

    – John Halbert
    1 hour ago










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How do you become a senior developer with 1 year of experience? That alone sounds like a red flag.

– Joe W
4 hours ago





How do you become a senior developer with 1 year of experience? That alone sounds like a red flag.

– Joe W
4 hours ago




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You are catching close votes. I am inclined to agree with them. What is your goal? Can you state it clearly? Otherwise this is just a rant.

– bruglesco
3 hours ago





You are catching close votes. I am inclined to agree with them. What is your goal? Can you state it clearly? Otherwise this is just a rant.

– bruglesco
3 hours ago













Welcome to software development. There are a lot of people like this out there - they use a lot of words to obfuscate that they're not good programmers. Just be aware that there are a lot of good programmers out there too. The trick I think, is to use the interview as your chance to test the quality of the tech lead/senior you're working under. Ask them some technical questions.

– dwjohnston
3 hours ago







Welcome to software development. There are a lot of people like this out there - they use a lot of words to obfuscate that they're not good programmers. Just be aware that there are a lot of good programmers out there too. The trick I think, is to use the interview as your chance to test the quality of the tech lead/senior you're working under. Ask them some technical questions.

– dwjohnston
3 hours ago















Are you collaborating at all with this senior on this project? Or are you both just doing your own thing?

– DaveG
1 hour ago





Are you collaborating at all with this senior on this project? Or are you both just doing your own thing?

– DaveG
1 hour ago













This doesn't surprise me. But if he has the rest of the team and mgmnt behind him, you're not going to be able to do much but dig yourself a hole. This is very common, like others have mentioned. And, since it's your first job, you're probably wrong some of the time, which is only going to hurt you even more. So, realistically your options are a. Leave b. Get on board and join the rest of the team c. Save mgmt more money than he does. Time on the job doing b or c will be the only ways you're going to get around this guy. That's just the way it is.

– John Halbert
1 hour ago







This doesn't surprise me. But if he has the rest of the team and mgmnt behind him, you're not going to be able to do much but dig yourself a hole. This is very common, like others have mentioned. And, since it's your first job, you're probably wrong some of the time, which is only going to hurt you even more. So, realistically your options are a. Leave b. Get on board and join the rest of the team c. Save mgmt more money than he does. Time on the job doing b or c will be the only ways you're going to get around this guy. That's just the way it is.

– John Halbert
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There was a time when I would have said "Stick it out, give things a chance."



That was then and this is now.



I've been where you are. What the "senior" did is unacceptable. Pulling your commits is marginally justifiable, if he IMMEDIATELY issues his design plan document. Deleting your (presumably private) branches is not.



Get out of there. As soon as possible.






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    The way that "senior" is behaving made me want to write the same thing about getting out. I worked with one guy and it was an absolute dream - we discussed, put forward ideas : some of mine got accepted, some weren't... but *all were looked at as to how they "fit" and how they worked towards the future... Plus 1 from me, said it better than I could.

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You made the mistake so many make.



You came straight from school to your first job and took it upon you to change how the company works.



Nobody cares if your suggestions are good or not, they just see a still green behind the ears graduate who thinks he knows better than everyone before him.



Of course you'll be met with resistance and looked down upon.



So that was why you're in the situation you're in right now.



Your senior either understood you know more than him and views you as a danger to his position or he thinks you're an immature, know it all hack who can't write correct code.



You have two options:



Confront or submit.



If you confront ask why your work was deleted and escalate to superiors if you can prove it was replaced by inferior code.



Be prepared for backlash up to the point that you want to or are forced to look for a new job.



If you submit, just do your tasks and bite your tongue if you have an idea how to optimize the company.



It's not your place until asked to do so, given a position with that responsibility or have your own company that you can run exactly the way you want it to...






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    There are situations where it's appropriate to suggest changes straight out of school. If the company specifically requests suggestions, it may be welcome. If the company sings the praises of the prior FNG who's still on probation, for the changes to the company they proposed - but in this case be extra careful to not step on toes.

    – Ed Grimm
    3 hours ago






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    Horrible advice. Your job, as a developer, is to write code that solves the company's problems and to help create and support procedures to enable that. How much experience you have doesn't change things- if their practices are bad, you should try to improve them. Now you should definitely be polite, choose your battles, and listen to reasons you may be wrong. But ignore anyone who says you should shut up and deal, they're the people who cause these kinds of messes.

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  • This is a terrible answer. Trying to change outdated and misguided processes is part of the job description. Submitting and conforming to existing bad process is a detriment to both the company and the OP's career.

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Often times the best programmers are the ones with the humility to admit when they're wrong and that don't need to hide behind layers of bullshit to cover up for not knowing something






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    Do you currently have the great luck of working in an industry where there's plenty of work.



    Right now you should be working for a company where either a) you love your job or b) you are learning every single day (which will help with a) in the long term). I can see no reason whatsoever for you to remain at this job.






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      "Because of him being the only dev in the team for more than a year, no one challenged his opinions and ideas on how processes should work"



      that is exactly what happened to me at work (pardon my english)
      and thats happened not only in progamming but also in every field work. (im not progamming but have same situation with yours)



      i dont say my senior (same situation with your senior) is bad at all, sometimes i give some advice/opinion/critic but she rejected it, she wont discussing it and findout the best way to solve the problem,



      but my condition is worse than you, cause you know, "she" is a woman, with "cute" wannabe attitude, when something get messy, people around side with her. So basically i know, i already lose the war before even started (again pardon my english).



      well if you are looking for the answer, maybe its only has 2 option,




      1. brace yourself, and accept the condition, considering if you need (have) to keep your job. i believe karma is real


      2. you could resign and find another job, i mean why would you live in a place that makes you unhappy right?



      and sometimes, the turth will be revealed itself,
      i mean its better for you to focus on yourself, use your energy and your time to develop your ability and skills rather than think about them, ignore close minded people like your senior (also mine).



      and the meaning of "the turth will be revealed itself", who knows 5 years later your senior will stuck at low grade job and you got into higher level job at different company. who knows right?






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        There was a time when I would have said "Stick it out, give things a chance."



        That was then and this is now.



        I've been where you are. What the "senior" did is unacceptable. Pulling your commits is marginally justifiable, if he IMMEDIATELY issues his design plan document. Deleting your (presumably private) branches is not.



        Get out of there. As soon as possible.






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          The way that "senior" is behaving made me want to write the same thing about getting out. I worked with one guy and it was an absolute dream - we discussed, put forward ideas : some of mine got accepted, some weren't... but *all were looked at as to how they "fit" and how they worked towards the future... Plus 1 from me, said it better than I could.

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        There was a time when I would have said "Stick it out, give things a chance."



        That was then and this is now.



        I've been where you are. What the "senior" did is unacceptable. Pulling your commits is marginally justifiable, if he IMMEDIATELY issues his design plan document. Deleting your (presumably private) branches is not.



        Get out of there. As soon as possible.






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          The way that "senior" is behaving made me want to write the same thing about getting out. I worked with one guy and it was an absolute dream - we discussed, put forward ideas : some of mine got accepted, some weren't... but *all were looked at as to how they "fit" and how they worked towards the future... Plus 1 from me, said it better than I could.

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        There was a time when I would have said "Stick it out, give things a chance."



        That was then and this is now.



        I've been where you are. What the "senior" did is unacceptable. Pulling your commits is marginally justifiable, if he IMMEDIATELY issues his design plan document. Deleting your (presumably private) branches is not.



        Get out of there. As soon as possible.






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        There was a time when I would have said "Stick it out, give things a chance."



        That was then and this is now.



        I've been where you are. What the "senior" did is unacceptable. Pulling your commits is marginally justifiable, if he IMMEDIATELY issues his design plan document. Deleting your (presumably private) branches is not.



        Get out of there. As soon as possible.







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          The way that "senior" is behaving made me want to write the same thing about getting out. I worked with one guy and it was an absolute dream - we discussed, put forward ideas : some of mine got accepted, some weren't... but *all were looked at as to how they "fit" and how they worked towards the future... Plus 1 from me, said it better than I could.

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          The way that "senior" is behaving made me want to write the same thing about getting out. I worked with one guy and it was an absolute dream - we discussed, put forward ideas : some of mine got accepted, some weren't... but *all were looked at as to how they "fit" and how they worked towards the future... Plus 1 from me, said it better than I could.

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          7 hours ago








        3




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        The way that "senior" is behaving made me want to write the same thing about getting out. I worked with one guy and it was an absolute dream - we discussed, put forward ideas : some of mine got accepted, some weren't... but *all were looked at as to how they "fit" and how they worked towards the future... Plus 1 from me, said it better than I could.

        – Solar Mike
        7 hours ago





        The way that "senior" is behaving made me want to write the same thing about getting out. I worked with one guy and it was an absolute dream - we discussed, put forward ideas : some of mine got accepted, some weren't... but *all were looked at as to how they "fit" and how they worked towards the future... Plus 1 from me, said it better than I could.

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        You made the mistake so many make.



        You came straight from school to your first job and took it upon you to change how the company works.



        Nobody cares if your suggestions are good or not, they just see a still green behind the ears graduate who thinks he knows better than everyone before him.



        Of course you'll be met with resistance and looked down upon.



        So that was why you're in the situation you're in right now.



        Your senior either understood you know more than him and views you as a danger to his position or he thinks you're an immature, know it all hack who can't write correct code.



        You have two options:



        Confront or submit.



        If you confront ask why your work was deleted and escalate to superiors if you can prove it was replaced by inferior code.



        Be prepared for backlash up to the point that you want to or are forced to look for a new job.



        If you submit, just do your tasks and bite your tongue if you have an idea how to optimize the company.



        It's not your place until asked to do so, given a position with that responsibility or have your own company that you can run exactly the way you want it to...






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          There are situations where it's appropriate to suggest changes straight out of school. If the company specifically requests suggestions, it may be welcome. If the company sings the praises of the prior FNG who's still on probation, for the changes to the company they proposed - but in this case be extra careful to not step on toes.

          – Ed Grimm
          3 hours ago






        • 1





          Horrible advice. Your job, as a developer, is to write code that solves the company's problems and to help create and support procedures to enable that. How much experience you have doesn't change things- if their practices are bad, you should try to improve them. Now you should definitely be polite, choose your battles, and listen to reasons you may be wrong. But ignore anyone who says you should shut up and deal, they're the people who cause these kinds of messes.

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          1 hour ago











        • This is a terrible answer. Trying to change outdated and misguided processes is part of the job description. Submitting and conforming to existing bad process is a detriment to both the company and the OP's career.

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        You made the mistake so many make.



        You came straight from school to your first job and took it upon you to change how the company works.



        Nobody cares if your suggestions are good or not, they just see a still green behind the ears graduate who thinks he knows better than everyone before him.



        Of course you'll be met with resistance and looked down upon.



        So that was why you're in the situation you're in right now.



        Your senior either understood you know more than him and views you as a danger to his position or he thinks you're an immature, know it all hack who can't write correct code.



        You have two options:



        Confront or submit.



        If you confront ask why your work was deleted and escalate to superiors if you can prove it was replaced by inferior code.



        Be prepared for backlash up to the point that you want to or are forced to look for a new job.



        If you submit, just do your tasks and bite your tongue if you have an idea how to optimize the company.



        It's not your place until asked to do so, given a position with that responsibility or have your own company that you can run exactly the way you want it to...






        share|improve this answer





















        • 1





          There are situations where it's appropriate to suggest changes straight out of school. If the company specifically requests suggestions, it may be welcome. If the company sings the praises of the prior FNG who's still on probation, for the changes to the company they proposed - but in this case be extra careful to not step on toes.

          – Ed Grimm
          3 hours ago






        • 1





          Horrible advice. Your job, as a developer, is to write code that solves the company's problems and to help create and support procedures to enable that. How much experience you have doesn't change things- if their practices are bad, you should try to improve them. Now you should definitely be polite, choose your battles, and listen to reasons you may be wrong. But ignore anyone who says you should shut up and deal, they're the people who cause these kinds of messes.

          – Gabe Sechan
          1 hour ago











        • This is a terrible answer. Trying to change outdated and misguided processes is part of the job description. Submitting and conforming to existing bad process is a detriment to both the company and the OP's career.

          – linksassin
          15 mins ago














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        You made the mistake so many make.



        You came straight from school to your first job and took it upon you to change how the company works.



        Nobody cares if your suggestions are good or not, they just see a still green behind the ears graduate who thinks he knows better than everyone before him.



        Of course you'll be met with resistance and looked down upon.



        So that was why you're in the situation you're in right now.



        Your senior either understood you know more than him and views you as a danger to his position or he thinks you're an immature, know it all hack who can't write correct code.



        You have two options:



        Confront or submit.



        If you confront ask why your work was deleted and escalate to superiors if you can prove it was replaced by inferior code.



        Be prepared for backlash up to the point that you want to or are forced to look for a new job.



        If you submit, just do your tasks and bite your tongue if you have an idea how to optimize the company.



        It's not your place until asked to do so, given a position with that responsibility or have your own company that you can run exactly the way you want it to...






        share|improve this answer















        You made the mistake so many make.



        You came straight from school to your first job and took it upon you to change how the company works.



        Nobody cares if your suggestions are good or not, they just see a still green behind the ears graduate who thinks he knows better than everyone before him.



        Of course you'll be met with resistance and looked down upon.



        So that was why you're in the situation you're in right now.



        Your senior either understood you know more than him and views you as a danger to his position or he thinks you're an immature, know it all hack who can't write correct code.



        You have two options:



        Confront or submit.



        If you confront ask why your work was deleted and escalate to superiors if you can prove it was replaced by inferior code.



        Be prepared for backlash up to the point that you want to or are forced to look for a new job.



        If you submit, just do your tasks and bite your tongue if you have an idea how to optimize the company.



        It's not your place until asked to do so, given a position with that responsibility or have your own company that you can run exactly the way you want it to...







        share|improve this answer














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        • 1





          There are situations where it's appropriate to suggest changes straight out of school. If the company specifically requests suggestions, it may be welcome. If the company sings the praises of the prior FNG who's still on probation, for the changes to the company they proposed - but in this case be extra careful to not step on toes.

          – Ed Grimm
          3 hours ago






        • 1





          Horrible advice. Your job, as a developer, is to write code that solves the company's problems and to help create and support procedures to enable that. How much experience you have doesn't change things- if their practices are bad, you should try to improve them. Now you should definitely be polite, choose your battles, and listen to reasons you may be wrong. But ignore anyone who says you should shut up and deal, they're the people who cause these kinds of messes.

          – Gabe Sechan
          1 hour ago











        • This is a terrible answer. Trying to change outdated and misguided processes is part of the job description. Submitting and conforming to existing bad process is a detriment to both the company and the OP's career.

          – linksassin
          15 mins ago














        • 1





          There are situations where it's appropriate to suggest changes straight out of school. If the company specifically requests suggestions, it may be welcome. If the company sings the praises of the prior FNG who's still on probation, for the changes to the company they proposed - but in this case be extra careful to not step on toes.

          – Ed Grimm
          3 hours ago






        • 1





          Horrible advice. Your job, as a developer, is to write code that solves the company's problems and to help create and support procedures to enable that. How much experience you have doesn't change things- if their practices are bad, you should try to improve them. Now you should definitely be polite, choose your battles, and listen to reasons you may be wrong. But ignore anyone who says you should shut up and deal, they're the people who cause these kinds of messes.

          – Gabe Sechan
          1 hour ago











        • This is a terrible answer. Trying to change outdated and misguided processes is part of the job description. Submitting and conforming to existing bad process is a detriment to both the company and the OP's career.

          – linksassin
          15 mins ago








        1




        1





        There are situations where it's appropriate to suggest changes straight out of school. If the company specifically requests suggestions, it may be welcome. If the company sings the praises of the prior FNG who's still on probation, for the changes to the company they proposed - but in this case be extra careful to not step on toes.

        – Ed Grimm
        3 hours ago





        There are situations where it's appropriate to suggest changes straight out of school. If the company specifically requests suggestions, it may be welcome. If the company sings the praises of the prior FNG who's still on probation, for the changes to the company they proposed - but in this case be extra careful to not step on toes.

        – Ed Grimm
        3 hours ago




        1




        1





        Horrible advice. Your job, as a developer, is to write code that solves the company's problems and to help create and support procedures to enable that. How much experience you have doesn't change things- if their practices are bad, you should try to improve them. Now you should definitely be polite, choose your battles, and listen to reasons you may be wrong. But ignore anyone who says you should shut up and deal, they're the people who cause these kinds of messes.

        – Gabe Sechan
        1 hour ago





        Horrible advice. Your job, as a developer, is to write code that solves the company's problems and to help create and support procedures to enable that. How much experience you have doesn't change things- if their practices are bad, you should try to improve them. Now you should definitely be polite, choose your battles, and listen to reasons you may be wrong. But ignore anyone who says you should shut up and deal, they're the people who cause these kinds of messes.

        – Gabe Sechan
        1 hour ago













        This is a terrible answer. Trying to change outdated and misguided processes is part of the job description. Submitting and conforming to existing bad process is a detriment to both the company and the OP's career.

        – linksassin
        15 mins ago





        This is a terrible answer. Trying to change outdated and misguided processes is part of the job description. Submitting and conforming to existing bad process is a detriment to both the company and the OP's career.

        – linksassin
        15 mins ago











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        Often times the best programmers are the ones with the humility to admit when they're wrong and that don't need to hide behind layers of bullshit to cover up for not knowing something






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                Do you currently have the great luck of working in an industry where there's plenty of work.



                Right now you should be working for a company where either a) you love your job or b) you are learning every single day (which will help with a) in the long term). I can see no reason whatsoever for you to remain at this job.






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                  Do you currently have the great luck of working in an industry where there's plenty of work.



                  Right now you should be working for a company where either a) you love your job or b) you are learning every single day (which will help with a) in the long term). I can see no reason whatsoever for you to remain at this job.






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                    Do you currently have the great luck of working in an industry where there's plenty of work.



                    Right now you should be working for a company where either a) you love your job or b) you are learning every single day (which will help with a) in the long term). I can see no reason whatsoever for you to remain at this job.






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                    Do you currently have the great luck of working in an industry where there's plenty of work.



                    Right now you should be working for a company where either a) you love your job or b) you are learning every single day (which will help with a) in the long term). I can see no reason whatsoever for you to remain at this job.







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                        "Because of him being the only dev in the team for more than a year, no one challenged his opinions and ideas on how processes should work"



                        that is exactly what happened to me at work (pardon my english)
                        and thats happened not only in progamming but also in every field work. (im not progamming but have same situation with yours)



                        i dont say my senior (same situation with your senior) is bad at all, sometimes i give some advice/opinion/critic but she rejected it, she wont discussing it and findout the best way to solve the problem,



                        but my condition is worse than you, cause you know, "she" is a woman, with "cute" wannabe attitude, when something get messy, people around side with her. So basically i know, i already lose the war before even started (again pardon my english).



                        well if you are looking for the answer, maybe its only has 2 option,




                        1. brace yourself, and accept the condition, considering if you need (have) to keep your job. i believe karma is real


                        2. you could resign and find another job, i mean why would you live in a place that makes you unhappy right?



                        and sometimes, the turth will be revealed itself,
                        i mean its better for you to focus on yourself, use your energy and your time to develop your ability and skills rather than think about them, ignore close minded people like your senior (also mine).



                        and the meaning of "the turth will be revealed itself", who knows 5 years later your senior will stuck at low grade job and you got into higher level job at different company. who knows right?






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                          "Because of him being the only dev in the team for more than a year, no one challenged his opinions and ideas on how processes should work"



                          that is exactly what happened to me at work (pardon my english)
                          and thats happened not only in progamming but also in every field work. (im not progamming but have same situation with yours)



                          i dont say my senior (same situation with your senior) is bad at all, sometimes i give some advice/opinion/critic but she rejected it, she wont discussing it and findout the best way to solve the problem,



                          but my condition is worse than you, cause you know, "she" is a woman, with "cute" wannabe attitude, when something get messy, people around side with her. So basically i know, i already lose the war before even started (again pardon my english).



                          well if you are looking for the answer, maybe its only has 2 option,




                          1. brace yourself, and accept the condition, considering if you need (have) to keep your job. i believe karma is real


                          2. you could resign and find another job, i mean why would you live in a place that makes you unhappy right?



                          and sometimes, the turth will be revealed itself,
                          i mean its better for you to focus on yourself, use your energy and your time to develop your ability and skills rather than think about them, ignore close minded people like your senior (also mine).



                          and the meaning of "the turth will be revealed itself", who knows 5 years later your senior will stuck at low grade job and you got into higher level job at different company. who knows right?






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                            "Because of him being the only dev in the team for more than a year, no one challenged his opinions and ideas on how processes should work"



                            that is exactly what happened to me at work (pardon my english)
                            and thats happened not only in progamming but also in every field work. (im not progamming but have same situation with yours)



                            i dont say my senior (same situation with your senior) is bad at all, sometimes i give some advice/opinion/critic but she rejected it, she wont discussing it and findout the best way to solve the problem,



                            but my condition is worse than you, cause you know, "she" is a woman, with "cute" wannabe attitude, when something get messy, people around side with her. So basically i know, i already lose the war before even started (again pardon my english).



                            well if you are looking for the answer, maybe its only has 2 option,




                            1. brace yourself, and accept the condition, considering if you need (have) to keep your job. i believe karma is real


                            2. you could resign and find another job, i mean why would you live in a place that makes you unhappy right?



                            and sometimes, the turth will be revealed itself,
                            i mean its better for you to focus on yourself, use your energy and your time to develop your ability and skills rather than think about them, ignore close minded people like your senior (also mine).



                            and the meaning of "the turth will be revealed itself", who knows 5 years later your senior will stuck at low grade job and you got into higher level job at different company. who knows right?






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                            "Because of him being the only dev in the team for more than a year, no one challenged his opinions and ideas on how processes should work"



                            that is exactly what happened to me at work (pardon my english)
                            and thats happened not only in progamming but also in every field work. (im not progamming but have same situation with yours)



                            i dont say my senior (same situation with your senior) is bad at all, sometimes i give some advice/opinion/critic but she rejected it, she wont discussing it and findout the best way to solve the problem,



                            but my condition is worse than you, cause you know, "she" is a woman, with "cute" wannabe attitude, when something get messy, people around side with her. So basically i know, i already lose the war before even started (again pardon my english).



                            well if you are looking for the answer, maybe its only has 2 option,




                            1. brace yourself, and accept the condition, considering if you need (have) to keep your job. i believe karma is real


                            2. you could resign and find another job, i mean why would you live in a place that makes you unhappy right?



                            and sometimes, the turth will be revealed itself,
                            i mean its better for you to focus on yourself, use your energy and your time to develop your ability and skills rather than think about them, ignore close minded people like your senior (also mine).



                            and the meaning of "the turth will be revealed itself", who knows 5 years later your senior will stuck at low grade job and you got into higher level job at different company. who knows right?







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