why cant they just drop a solar winch down from a shuttle and have planes fly up and clip things on?












1












$begingroup$


why cant they just drop a solar winch down from a shuttle and have planes fly up and clip things on?



i know of the idea to have a space lift but the cable necessary is too expensive.



why cant we just have a small cable hanging down to the edge of space though?










share|improve this question







New contributor




SpaceMonkey is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.







$endgroup$

















    1












    $begingroup$


    why cant they just drop a solar winch down from a shuttle and have planes fly up and clip things on?



    i know of the idea to have a space lift but the cable necessary is too expensive.



    why cant we just have a small cable hanging down to the edge of space though?










    share|improve this question







    New contributor




    SpaceMonkey is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
    Check out our Code of Conduct.







    $endgroup$















      1












      1








      1





      $begingroup$


      why cant they just drop a solar winch down from a shuttle and have planes fly up and clip things on?



      i know of the idea to have a space lift but the cable necessary is too expensive.



      why cant we just have a small cable hanging down to the edge of space though?










      share|improve this question







      New contributor




      SpaceMonkey is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
      Check out our Code of Conduct.







      $endgroup$




      why cant they just drop a solar winch down from a shuttle and have planes fly up and clip things on?



      i know of the idea to have a space lift but the cable necessary is too expensive.



      why cant we just have a small cable hanging down to the edge of space though?







      launch spacecraft design






      share|improve this question







      New contributor




      SpaceMonkey is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
      Check out our Code of Conduct.











      share|improve this question







      New contributor




      SpaceMonkey is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
      Check out our Code of Conduct.









      share|improve this question




      share|improve this question






      New contributor




      SpaceMonkey is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
      Check out our Code of Conduct.









      asked 3 hours ago









      SpaceMonkeySpaceMonkey

      61




      61




      New contributor




      SpaceMonkey is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
      Check out our Code of Conduct.





      New contributor





      SpaceMonkey is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
      Check out our Code of Conduct.






      SpaceMonkey is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
      Check out our Code of Conduct.






















          2 Answers
          2






          active

          oldest

          votes


















          5












          $begingroup$

          Because space isn't about going high, it's about going fast! For example, in a 400km orbit (like ISS) you need a speed of about 27,500 km/h or 7.66 km per second. So if you would extend a pole, winch or anything else into the lower parts of the atmosphere, it would also move at about 27,500 km/h (if we ignore atmospheric drag and all other influences). Try to catch that hook! If you can, you might as well go straight into orbit yourself.






          share|improve this answer









          $endgroup$





















            1












            $begingroup$

            As an alternative to DarkDust's answer. If you start higher, at the classic altitude for space elevators the end of your cable is indeed stationary to the air but your cable needs to reach from Geostationary orbit to the upper atmosphere, something like 35,700km. The clipping off the last 20-60km does make a big difference in the overall monumental cost and complexity.



            It is also worth noting that as you climb the cable, you will also pull the cable and station down. So your elevator will need to burn similar amounts of fuel to keep in orbit as if you had flown there (though possibly in a more efficient engine), unless you can balance things with loads coming down and being dropped as you go up.






            share|improve this answer









            $endgroup$













              Your Answer





              StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
              return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
              StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
              StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
              });
              });
              }, "mathjax-editing");

              StackExchange.ready(function() {
              var channelOptions = {
              tags: "".split(" "),
              id: "508"
              };
              initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

              StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
              // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
              if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
              StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
              createEditor();
              });
              }
              else {
              createEditor();
              }
              });

              function createEditor() {
              StackExchange.prepareEditor({
              heartbeatType: 'answer',
              autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
              convertImagesToLinks: false,
              noModals: true,
              showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
              reputationToPostImages: null,
              bindNavPrevention: true,
              postfix: "",
              imageUploader: {
              brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
              contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
              allowUrls: true
              },
              noCode: true, onDemand: true,
              discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
              ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
              });


              }
              });






              SpaceMonkey is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.










              draft saved

              draft discarded


















              StackExchange.ready(
              function () {
              StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fspace.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f33718%2fwhy-cant-they-just-drop-a-solar-winch-down-from-a-shuttle-and-have-planes-fly-up%23new-answer', 'question_page');
              }
              );

              Post as a guest















              Required, but never shown

























              2 Answers
              2






              active

              oldest

              votes








              2 Answers
              2






              active

              oldest

              votes









              active

              oldest

              votes






              active

              oldest

              votes









              5












              $begingroup$

              Because space isn't about going high, it's about going fast! For example, in a 400km orbit (like ISS) you need a speed of about 27,500 km/h or 7.66 km per second. So if you would extend a pole, winch or anything else into the lower parts of the atmosphere, it would also move at about 27,500 km/h (if we ignore atmospheric drag and all other influences). Try to catch that hook! If you can, you might as well go straight into orbit yourself.






              share|improve this answer









              $endgroup$


















                5












                $begingroup$

                Because space isn't about going high, it's about going fast! For example, in a 400km orbit (like ISS) you need a speed of about 27,500 km/h or 7.66 km per second. So if you would extend a pole, winch or anything else into the lower parts of the atmosphere, it would also move at about 27,500 km/h (if we ignore atmospheric drag and all other influences). Try to catch that hook! If you can, you might as well go straight into orbit yourself.






                share|improve this answer









                $endgroup$
















                  5












                  5








                  5





                  $begingroup$

                  Because space isn't about going high, it's about going fast! For example, in a 400km orbit (like ISS) you need a speed of about 27,500 km/h or 7.66 km per second. So if you would extend a pole, winch or anything else into the lower parts of the atmosphere, it would also move at about 27,500 km/h (if we ignore atmospheric drag and all other influences). Try to catch that hook! If you can, you might as well go straight into orbit yourself.






                  share|improve this answer









                  $endgroup$



                  Because space isn't about going high, it's about going fast! For example, in a 400km orbit (like ISS) you need a speed of about 27,500 km/h or 7.66 km per second. So if you would extend a pole, winch or anything else into the lower parts of the atmosphere, it would also move at about 27,500 km/h (if we ignore atmospheric drag and all other influences). Try to catch that hook! If you can, you might as well go straight into orbit yourself.







                  share|improve this answer












                  share|improve this answer



                  share|improve this answer










                  answered 1 hour ago









                  DarkDustDarkDust

                  6,87432854




                  6,87432854























                      1












                      $begingroup$

                      As an alternative to DarkDust's answer. If you start higher, at the classic altitude for space elevators the end of your cable is indeed stationary to the air but your cable needs to reach from Geostationary orbit to the upper atmosphere, something like 35,700km. The clipping off the last 20-60km does make a big difference in the overall monumental cost and complexity.



                      It is also worth noting that as you climb the cable, you will also pull the cable and station down. So your elevator will need to burn similar amounts of fuel to keep in orbit as if you had flown there (though possibly in a more efficient engine), unless you can balance things with loads coming down and being dropped as you go up.






                      share|improve this answer









                      $endgroup$


















                        1












                        $begingroup$

                        As an alternative to DarkDust's answer. If you start higher, at the classic altitude for space elevators the end of your cable is indeed stationary to the air but your cable needs to reach from Geostationary orbit to the upper atmosphere, something like 35,700km. The clipping off the last 20-60km does make a big difference in the overall monumental cost and complexity.



                        It is also worth noting that as you climb the cable, you will also pull the cable and station down. So your elevator will need to burn similar amounts of fuel to keep in orbit as if you had flown there (though possibly in a more efficient engine), unless you can balance things with loads coming down and being dropped as you go up.






                        share|improve this answer









                        $endgroup$
















                          1












                          1








                          1





                          $begingroup$

                          As an alternative to DarkDust's answer. If you start higher, at the classic altitude for space elevators the end of your cable is indeed stationary to the air but your cable needs to reach from Geostationary orbit to the upper atmosphere, something like 35,700km. The clipping off the last 20-60km does make a big difference in the overall monumental cost and complexity.



                          It is also worth noting that as you climb the cable, you will also pull the cable and station down. So your elevator will need to burn similar amounts of fuel to keep in orbit as if you had flown there (though possibly in a more efficient engine), unless you can balance things with loads coming down and being dropped as you go up.






                          share|improve this answer









                          $endgroup$



                          As an alternative to DarkDust's answer. If you start higher, at the classic altitude for space elevators the end of your cable is indeed stationary to the air but your cable needs to reach from Geostationary orbit to the upper atmosphere, something like 35,700km. The clipping off the last 20-60km does make a big difference in the overall monumental cost and complexity.



                          It is also worth noting that as you climb the cable, you will also pull the cable and station down. So your elevator will need to burn similar amounts of fuel to keep in orbit as if you had flown there (though possibly in a more efficient engine), unless you can balance things with loads coming down and being dropped as you go up.







                          share|improve this answer












                          share|improve this answer



                          share|improve this answer










                          answered 1 hour ago









                          GremlinWrangerGremlinWranger

                          2,073216




                          2,073216






















                              SpaceMonkey is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.










                              draft saved

                              draft discarded


















                              SpaceMonkey is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.













                              SpaceMonkey is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.












                              SpaceMonkey is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
















                              Thanks for contributing an answer to Space Exploration Stack Exchange!


                              • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

                              But avoid



                              • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

                              • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


                              Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


                              To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




                              draft saved


                              draft discarded














                              StackExchange.ready(
                              function () {
                              StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fspace.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f33718%2fwhy-cant-they-just-drop-a-solar-winch-down-from-a-shuttle-and-have-planes-fly-up%23new-answer', 'question_page');
                              }
                              );

                              Post as a guest















                              Required, but never shown





















































                              Required, but never shown














                              Required, but never shown












                              Required, but never shown







                              Required, but never shown

































                              Required, but never shown














                              Required, but never shown












                              Required, but never shown







                              Required, but never shown







                              Popular posts from this blog

                              Histoire des bourses de valeurs

                              Why is there Russian traffic in my log files?

                              Rename multiple files to decrement number in file name?