How does one interpret (or write) scientific pitch notation with accidentals when it crosses octave...












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Given C♭♭4, for example, is that enharmonic with B♭3 (because you start at C4 and flat it twice) or B♭4 (because octave number 4 means octave number 4)?



Asked another way, how do you write the note below in scientific pitch notation?



Staff showing C-Double-Flat on ledger line below treble clef staff



I'm just wondering from a theoretical perspective.






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    Given C♭♭4, for example, is that enharmonic with B♭3 (because you start at C4 and flat it twice) or B♭4 (because octave number 4 means octave number 4)?



    Asked another way, how do you write the note below in scientific pitch notation?



    Staff showing C-Double-Flat on ledger line below treble clef staff



    I'm just wondering from a theoretical perspective.






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      Given C♭♭4, for example, is that enharmonic with B♭3 (because you start at C4 and flat it twice) or B♭4 (because octave number 4 means octave number 4)?



      Asked another way, how do you write the note below in scientific pitch notation?



      Staff showing C-Double-Flat on ledger line below treble clef staff



      I'm just wondering from a theoretical perspective.






      theory accidentals pitch







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      Given C♭♭4, for example, is that enharmonic with B♭3 (because you start at C4 and flat it twice) or B♭4 (because octave number 4 means octave number 4)?



      Asked another way, how do you write the note below in scientific pitch notation?



      Staff showing C-Double-Flat on ledger line below treble clef staff



      I'm just wondering from a theoretical perspective.






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          Follow the note name. Add accidentals later.



          Begin by acknowledging that this pitch is some type of C4. Then add accidentals to show that it's C♭♭4.



          This is a little strange, because (as you say) C♭♭4 is lower than B3. But that's no more odd than saying any C♭♭ is lower than its nearest B.



          And the same is of course true going the other way: B♯3, despite being enharmonic to C4, is nevertheless identified in the "3" register.






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            Makes sense. Guess you don't really need double accidentals to have this question.

            – trw
            10 hours ago






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            I think it helps the question to have the two pitches sounding the same. If it's only C♭, it's still above B♭, so the question of "why is 4 higher than 3?" isn't as problematic.

            – Richard
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          • I'll get bellyache from laughing :) up vote!

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          Follow the note name. Add accidentals later.



          Begin by acknowledging that this pitch is some type of C4. Then add accidentals to show that it's C♭♭4.



          This is a little strange, because (as you say) C♭♭4 is lower than B3. But that's no more odd than saying any C♭♭ is lower than its nearest B.



          And the same is of course true going the other way: B♯3, despite being enharmonic to C4, is nevertheless identified in the "3" register.






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          • 2





            Makes sense. Guess you don't really need double accidentals to have this question.

            – trw
            10 hours ago






          • 3





            I think it helps the question to have the two pitches sounding the same. If it's only C♭, it's still above B♭, so the question of "why is 4 higher than 3?" isn't as problematic.

            – Richard
            10 hours ago











          • I'll get bellyache from laughing :) up vote!

            – Albrecht Hügli
            10 hours ago


















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          Follow the note name. Add accidentals later.



          Begin by acknowledging that this pitch is some type of C4. Then add accidentals to show that it's C♭♭4.



          This is a little strange, because (as you say) C♭♭4 is lower than B3. But that's no more odd than saying any C♭♭ is lower than its nearest B.



          And the same is of course true going the other way: B♯3, despite being enharmonic to C4, is nevertheless identified in the "3" register.






          share|improve this answer



















          • 2





            Makes sense. Guess you don't really need double accidentals to have this question.

            – trw
            10 hours ago






          • 3





            I think it helps the question to have the two pitches sounding the same. If it's only C♭, it's still above B♭, so the question of "why is 4 higher than 3?" isn't as problematic.

            – Richard
            10 hours ago











          • I'll get bellyache from laughing :) up vote!

            – Albrecht Hügli
            10 hours ago
















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          Follow the note name. Add accidentals later.



          Begin by acknowledging that this pitch is some type of C4. Then add accidentals to show that it's C♭♭4.



          This is a little strange, because (as you say) C♭♭4 is lower than B3. But that's no more odd than saying any C♭♭ is lower than its nearest B.



          And the same is of course true going the other way: B♯3, despite being enharmonic to C4, is nevertheless identified in the "3" register.






          share|improve this answer













          Follow the note name. Add accidentals later.



          Begin by acknowledging that this pitch is some type of C4. Then add accidentals to show that it's C♭♭4.



          This is a little strange, because (as you say) C♭♭4 is lower than B3. But that's no more odd than saying any C♭♭ is lower than its nearest B.



          And the same is of course true going the other way: B♯3, despite being enharmonic to C4, is nevertheless identified in the "3" register.







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          • 2





            Makes sense. Guess you don't really need double accidentals to have this question.

            – trw
            10 hours ago






          • 3





            I think it helps the question to have the two pitches sounding the same. If it's only C♭, it's still above B♭, so the question of "why is 4 higher than 3?" isn't as problematic.

            – Richard
            10 hours ago











          • I'll get bellyache from laughing :) up vote!

            – Albrecht Hügli
            10 hours ago
















          • 2





            Makes sense. Guess you don't really need double accidentals to have this question.

            – trw
            10 hours ago






          • 3





            I think it helps the question to have the two pitches sounding the same. If it's only C♭, it's still above B♭, so the question of "why is 4 higher than 3?" isn't as problematic.

            – Richard
            10 hours ago











          • I'll get bellyache from laughing :) up vote!

            – Albrecht Hügli
            10 hours ago










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          2





          Makes sense. Guess you don't really need double accidentals to have this question.

          – trw
          10 hours ago





          Makes sense. Guess you don't really need double accidentals to have this question.

          – trw
          10 hours ago




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          I think it helps the question to have the two pitches sounding the same. If it's only C♭, it's still above B♭, so the question of "why is 4 higher than 3?" isn't as problematic.

          – Richard
          10 hours ago





          I think it helps the question to have the two pitches sounding the same. If it's only C♭, it's still above B♭, so the question of "why is 4 higher than 3?" isn't as problematic.

          – Richard
          10 hours ago













          I'll get bellyache from laughing :) up vote!

          – Albrecht Hügli
          10 hours ago







          I'll get bellyache from laughing :) up vote!

          – Albrecht Hügli
          10 hours ago




















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