Does this MacBook have a screen or GPU problem?
If it is a screen error then I don't mind fixing it myself, but if the GPU is the problem, I'm worried I might have to buy a new logic board assuming I can't use the GPU.
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If it is a screen error then I don't mind fixing it myself, but if the GPU is the problem, I'm worried I might have to buy a new logic board assuming I can't use the GPU.
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– Monomeeth♦
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The seller should really show you that mac connected to external screen or offer to let you get it evaluated by a repair shop before you pay money for it. Of course if they’re giving you such a good deal that it doesn’t matter then you can just take the deal. But if they’re selling it as a good machine they should help you verify that.
– bmike♦
6 hours ago
That is what exact model?
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If it is a screen error then I don't mind fixing it myself, but if the GPU is the problem, I'm worried I might have to buy a new logic board assuming I can't use the GPU.
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If it is a screen error then I don't mind fixing it myself, but if the GPU is the problem, I'm worried I might have to buy a new logic board assuming I can't use the GPU.
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Welcome to Ask Different! :) I hope you come to find this site has a lot to offer! In case you haven't already, it's worth taking the time to read the tour. All the best!
– Monomeeth♦
7 hours ago
The seller should really show you that mac connected to external screen or offer to let you get it evaluated by a repair shop before you pay money for it. Of course if they’re giving you such a good deal that it doesn’t matter then you can just take the deal. But if they’re selling it as a good machine they should help you verify that.
– bmike♦
6 hours ago
That is what exact model?
– LangLangC
6 hours ago
add a comment |
1
Welcome to Ask Different! :) I hope you come to find this site has a lot to offer! In case you haven't already, it's worth taking the time to read the tour. All the best!
– Monomeeth♦
7 hours ago
The seller should really show you that mac connected to external screen or offer to let you get it evaluated by a repair shop before you pay money for it. Of course if they’re giving you such a good deal that it doesn’t matter then you can just take the deal. But if they’re selling it as a good machine they should help you verify that.
– bmike♦
6 hours ago
That is what exact model?
– LangLangC
6 hours ago
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Welcome to Ask Different! :) I hope you come to find this site has a lot to offer! In case you haven't already, it's worth taking the time to read the tour. All the best!
– Monomeeth♦
7 hours ago
Welcome to Ask Different! :) I hope you come to find this site has a lot to offer! In case you haven't already, it's worth taking the time to read the tour. All the best!
– Monomeeth♦
7 hours ago
The seller should really show you that mac connected to external screen or offer to let you get it evaluated by a repair shop before you pay money for it. Of course if they’re giving you such a good deal that it doesn’t matter then you can just take the deal. But if they’re selling it as a good machine they should help you verify that.
– bmike♦
6 hours ago
The seller should really show you that mac connected to external screen or offer to let you get it evaluated by a repair shop before you pay money for it. Of course if they’re giving you such a good deal that it doesn’t matter then you can just take the deal. But if they’re selling it as a good machine they should help you verify that.
– bmike♦
6 hours ago
That is what exact model?
– LangLangC
6 hours ago
That is what exact model?
– LangLangC
6 hours ago
add a comment |
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The folder with the question mark means it cannot find a bootable system.
That said, because it can display that image, then I would think it is a screen problem - does it show signs of being bent or having dents in it...
Are you sure of your skills to do the necessary repairs or is this a "throwaway" project...
This is me trying to buy a macbook from someone. I am quite decent at repairs but I am also aware of how devastatingly expensive a logic board can cost especially for 17" macs. The ? is because it does not have a HDD. I plan to use it for college on the go since I have a dedicated desktop at home already. There are no dents
– Iann Lee
7 hours ago
@IannLee Already have a Mac, I would buy an iPad rather than this MacBook Pro. Plus one for an interesting question that’s bringing about all sorts of good answers and information. Well done
– bmike♦
6 hours ago
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The best way to determine if the vertical bar is due to the screen is to boot the Mac into an operating system and take a screenshot.
If the vertical bar still appears in the actual screenshot, then you know it's related to something else (e.g. the GPU, etc). If it's not there, it's a problem with the screen.
Another option you could try is to test the hardware by running Apple Hardware Test over the internet.
To do this, follow these steps:
- Shut down the MacBook Pro
- Restart the MacBook Pro
- Press and hold the option and D keys before the gray startup screen appears.
- After a while, Apple Hardware Test (AHT) will start.
- When prompted, select your language and click the right arrow.
- When the AHT console appears, you can choose to run Basic tests by clicking the Test button. However, I suggest you select the "Perform extended testing" checkbox before you click the Test button.
- Your test results will appear in the window in the bottom-right of the console.
No. Don’t trust AHT. Especially if you suspect GPU failing. It’s false negative far too much. Do the empirical tests. Great answer, I just disagree on AHT from long experience with it.
– bmike♦
6 hours ago
I also haven't seen artefacts in screenshots from well known GPU problems. Why would that be, it seems to be like the shot comes from a different stage in the pipeline?
– LangLangC
6 hours ago
@bmike I agree - AHT certainly isn't 100% accurate.
– Monomeeth♦
6 hours ago
@LangLangC You're right, not all GPU problems will necessarily present themselves in screenshots, although if it's a problem that's visible on the display than a screenshot would usually narrow down whether it's an issue with the display or something else.
– Monomeeth♦
5 hours ago
add a comment |
That’s a hard one. It could really be either.
- not the operating system since it’s just the firmware running
- it’s less likely it’s the GPU when you see an issue before the OS loads, but it still could be the GPU.
- it’s more likely the LCD or cabling when there is clear, crips vertical defects
So the tie goes to LCD failure and not GPU if I was forced to guess, but I wouldn’t guess with my money. I would meet the seller with an external display so that you can evaluate before you pay. Or set two prices - the price you pay if it’s the GPU and the price you pay if it's not the GPU. The seller has more information than you, so you don’t want to get taken advantage of. Similarly, you also can’t waste the sellers time if you’re not going to make a legitimate offer once you understand the condition of the goods.
Looking at the form factor there will be no more official Apple products anywhere, except Turkey? (Or other special jurisdictions I do not know about now. But Apple actively prohibits this wherever they can. It's all vintage now?) It might be also just the cable, inverter, quite cheap to replace. Etc. At this stage, I'd say we know not really much about it. Except that more details in the Q would help.
– LangLangC
6 hours ago
I agree, using an external display is another good test!
– Monomeeth♦
5 hours ago
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The folder with the question mark means it cannot find a bootable system.
That said, because it can display that image, then I would think it is a screen problem - does it show signs of being bent or having dents in it...
Are you sure of your skills to do the necessary repairs or is this a "throwaway" project...
This is me trying to buy a macbook from someone. I am quite decent at repairs but I am also aware of how devastatingly expensive a logic board can cost especially for 17" macs. The ? is because it does not have a HDD. I plan to use it for college on the go since I have a dedicated desktop at home already. There are no dents
– Iann Lee
7 hours ago
@IannLee Already have a Mac, I would buy an iPad rather than this MacBook Pro. Plus one for an interesting question that’s bringing about all sorts of good answers and information. Well done
– bmike♦
6 hours ago
add a comment |
The folder with the question mark means it cannot find a bootable system.
That said, because it can display that image, then I would think it is a screen problem - does it show signs of being bent or having dents in it...
Are you sure of your skills to do the necessary repairs or is this a "throwaway" project...
This is me trying to buy a macbook from someone. I am quite decent at repairs but I am also aware of how devastatingly expensive a logic board can cost especially for 17" macs. The ? is because it does not have a HDD. I plan to use it for college on the go since I have a dedicated desktop at home already. There are no dents
– Iann Lee
7 hours ago
@IannLee Already have a Mac, I would buy an iPad rather than this MacBook Pro. Plus one for an interesting question that’s bringing about all sorts of good answers and information. Well done
– bmike♦
6 hours ago
add a comment |
The folder with the question mark means it cannot find a bootable system.
That said, because it can display that image, then I would think it is a screen problem - does it show signs of being bent or having dents in it...
Are you sure of your skills to do the necessary repairs or is this a "throwaway" project...
The folder with the question mark means it cannot find a bootable system.
That said, because it can display that image, then I would think it is a screen problem - does it show signs of being bent or having dents in it...
Are you sure of your skills to do the necessary repairs or is this a "throwaway" project...
answered 7 hours ago
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This is me trying to buy a macbook from someone. I am quite decent at repairs but I am also aware of how devastatingly expensive a logic board can cost especially for 17" macs. The ? is because it does not have a HDD. I plan to use it for college on the go since I have a dedicated desktop at home already. There are no dents
– Iann Lee
7 hours ago
@IannLee Already have a Mac, I would buy an iPad rather than this MacBook Pro. Plus one for an interesting question that’s bringing about all sorts of good answers and information. Well done
– bmike♦
6 hours ago
add a comment |
This is me trying to buy a macbook from someone. I am quite decent at repairs but I am also aware of how devastatingly expensive a logic board can cost especially for 17" macs. The ? is because it does not have a HDD. I plan to use it for college on the go since I have a dedicated desktop at home already. There are no dents
– Iann Lee
7 hours ago
@IannLee Already have a Mac, I would buy an iPad rather than this MacBook Pro. Plus one for an interesting question that’s bringing about all sorts of good answers and information. Well done
– bmike♦
6 hours ago
This is me trying to buy a macbook from someone. I am quite decent at repairs but I am also aware of how devastatingly expensive a logic board can cost especially for 17" macs. The ? is because it does not have a HDD. I plan to use it for college on the go since I have a dedicated desktop at home already. There are no dents
– Iann Lee
7 hours ago
This is me trying to buy a macbook from someone. I am quite decent at repairs but I am also aware of how devastatingly expensive a logic board can cost especially for 17" macs. The ? is because it does not have a HDD. I plan to use it for college on the go since I have a dedicated desktop at home already. There are no dents
– Iann Lee
7 hours ago
@IannLee Already have a Mac, I would buy an iPad rather than this MacBook Pro. Plus one for an interesting question that’s bringing about all sorts of good answers and information. Well done
– bmike♦
6 hours ago
@IannLee Already have a Mac, I would buy an iPad rather than this MacBook Pro. Plus one for an interesting question that’s bringing about all sorts of good answers and information. Well done
– bmike♦
6 hours ago
add a comment |
The best way to determine if the vertical bar is due to the screen is to boot the Mac into an operating system and take a screenshot.
If the vertical bar still appears in the actual screenshot, then you know it's related to something else (e.g. the GPU, etc). If it's not there, it's a problem with the screen.
Another option you could try is to test the hardware by running Apple Hardware Test over the internet.
To do this, follow these steps:
- Shut down the MacBook Pro
- Restart the MacBook Pro
- Press and hold the option and D keys before the gray startup screen appears.
- After a while, Apple Hardware Test (AHT) will start.
- When prompted, select your language and click the right arrow.
- When the AHT console appears, you can choose to run Basic tests by clicking the Test button. However, I suggest you select the "Perform extended testing" checkbox before you click the Test button.
- Your test results will appear in the window in the bottom-right of the console.
No. Don’t trust AHT. Especially if you suspect GPU failing. It’s false negative far too much. Do the empirical tests. Great answer, I just disagree on AHT from long experience with it.
– bmike♦
6 hours ago
I also haven't seen artefacts in screenshots from well known GPU problems. Why would that be, it seems to be like the shot comes from a different stage in the pipeline?
– LangLangC
6 hours ago
@bmike I agree - AHT certainly isn't 100% accurate.
– Monomeeth♦
6 hours ago
@LangLangC You're right, not all GPU problems will necessarily present themselves in screenshots, although if it's a problem that's visible on the display than a screenshot would usually narrow down whether it's an issue with the display or something else.
– Monomeeth♦
5 hours ago
add a comment |
The best way to determine if the vertical bar is due to the screen is to boot the Mac into an operating system and take a screenshot.
If the vertical bar still appears in the actual screenshot, then you know it's related to something else (e.g. the GPU, etc). If it's not there, it's a problem with the screen.
Another option you could try is to test the hardware by running Apple Hardware Test over the internet.
To do this, follow these steps:
- Shut down the MacBook Pro
- Restart the MacBook Pro
- Press and hold the option and D keys before the gray startup screen appears.
- After a while, Apple Hardware Test (AHT) will start.
- When prompted, select your language and click the right arrow.
- When the AHT console appears, you can choose to run Basic tests by clicking the Test button. However, I suggest you select the "Perform extended testing" checkbox before you click the Test button.
- Your test results will appear in the window in the bottom-right of the console.
No. Don’t trust AHT. Especially if you suspect GPU failing. It’s false negative far too much. Do the empirical tests. Great answer, I just disagree on AHT from long experience with it.
– bmike♦
6 hours ago
I also haven't seen artefacts in screenshots from well known GPU problems. Why would that be, it seems to be like the shot comes from a different stage in the pipeline?
– LangLangC
6 hours ago
@bmike I agree - AHT certainly isn't 100% accurate.
– Monomeeth♦
6 hours ago
@LangLangC You're right, not all GPU problems will necessarily present themselves in screenshots, although if it's a problem that's visible on the display than a screenshot would usually narrow down whether it's an issue with the display or something else.
– Monomeeth♦
5 hours ago
add a comment |
The best way to determine if the vertical bar is due to the screen is to boot the Mac into an operating system and take a screenshot.
If the vertical bar still appears in the actual screenshot, then you know it's related to something else (e.g. the GPU, etc). If it's not there, it's a problem with the screen.
Another option you could try is to test the hardware by running Apple Hardware Test over the internet.
To do this, follow these steps:
- Shut down the MacBook Pro
- Restart the MacBook Pro
- Press and hold the option and D keys before the gray startup screen appears.
- After a while, Apple Hardware Test (AHT) will start.
- When prompted, select your language and click the right arrow.
- When the AHT console appears, you can choose to run Basic tests by clicking the Test button. However, I suggest you select the "Perform extended testing" checkbox before you click the Test button.
- Your test results will appear in the window in the bottom-right of the console.
The best way to determine if the vertical bar is due to the screen is to boot the Mac into an operating system and take a screenshot.
If the vertical bar still appears in the actual screenshot, then you know it's related to something else (e.g. the GPU, etc). If it's not there, it's a problem with the screen.
Another option you could try is to test the hardware by running Apple Hardware Test over the internet.
To do this, follow these steps:
- Shut down the MacBook Pro
- Restart the MacBook Pro
- Press and hold the option and D keys before the gray startup screen appears.
- After a while, Apple Hardware Test (AHT) will start.
- When prompted, select your language and click the right arrow.
- When the AHT console appears, you can choose to run Basic tests by clicking the Test button. However, I suggest you select the "Perform extended testing" checkbox before you click the Test button.
- Your test results will appear in the window in the bottom-right of the console.
edited 6 hours ago
answered 6 hours ago
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No. Don’t trust AHT. Especially if you suspect GPU failing. It’s false negative far too much. Do the empirical tests. Great answer, I just disagree on AHT from long experience with it.
– bmike♦
6 hours ago
I also haven't seen artefacts in screenshots from well known GPU problems. Why would that be, it seems to be like the shot comes from a different stage in the pipeline?
– LangLangC
6 hours ago
@bmike I agree - AHT certainly isn't 100% accurate.
– Monomeeth♦
6 hours ago
@LangLangC You're right, not all GPU problems will necessarily present themselves in screenshots, although if it's a problem that's visible on the display than a screenshot would usually narrow down whether it's an issue with the display or something else.
– Monomeeth♦
5 hours ago
add a comment |
No. Don’t trust AHT. Especially if you suspect GPU failing. It’s false negative far too much. Do the empirical tests. Great answer, I just disagree on AHT from long experience with it.
– bmike♦
6 hours ago
I also haven't seen artefacts in screenshots from well known GPU problems. Why would that be, it seems to be like the shot comes from a different stage in the pipeline?
– LangLangC
6 hours ago
@bmike I agree - AHT certainly isn't 100% accurate.
– Monomeeth♦
6 hours ago
@LangLangC You're right, not all GPU problems will necessarily present themselves in screenshots, although if it's a problem that's visible on the display than a screenshot would usually narrow down whether it's an issue with the display or something else.
– Monomeeth♦
5 hours ago
No. Don’t trust AHT. Especially if you suspect GPU failing. It’s false negative far too much. Do the empirical tests. Great answer, I just disagree on AHT from long experience with it.
– bmike♦
6 hours ago
No. Don’t trust AHT. Especially if you suspect GPU failing. It’s false negative far too much. Do the empirical tests. Great answer, I just disagree on AHT from long experience with it.
– bmike♦
6 hours ago
I also haven't seen artefacts in screenshots from well known GPU problems. Why would that be, it seems to be like the shot comes from a different stage in the pipeline?
– LangLangC
6 hours ago
I also haven't seen artefacts in screenshots from well known GPU problems. Why would that be, it seems to be like the shot comes from a different stage in the pipeline?
– LangLangC
6 hours ago
@bmike I agree - AHT certainly isn't 100% accurate.
– Monomeeth♦
6 hours ago
@bmike I agree - AHT certainly isn't 100% accurate.
– Monomeeth♦
6 hours ago
@LangLangC You're right, not all GPU problems will necessarily present themselves in screenshots, although if it's a problem that's visible on the display than a screenshot would usually narrow down whether it's an issue with the display or something else.
– Monomeeth♦
5 hours ago
@LangLangC You're right, not all GPU problems will necessarily present themselves in screenshots, although if it's a problem that's visible on the display than a screenshot would usually narrow down whether it's an issue with the display or something else.
– Monomeeth♦
5 hours ago
add a comment |
That’s a hard one. It could really be either.
- not the operating system since it’s just the firmware running
- it’s less likely it’s the GPU when you see an issue before the OS loads, but it still could be the GPU.
- it’s more likely the LCD or cabling when there is clear, crips vertical defects
So the tie goes to LCD failure and not GPU if I was forced to guess, but I wouldn’t guess with my money. I would meet the seller with an external display so that you can evaluate before you pay. Or set two prices - the price you pay if it’s the GPU and the price you pay if it's not the GPU. The seller has more information than you, so you don’t want to get taken advantage of. Similarly, you also can’t waste the sellers time if you’re not going to make a legitimate offer once you understand the condition of the goods.
Looking at the form factor there will be no more official Apple products anywhere, except Turkey? (Or other special jurisdictions I do not know about now. But Apple actively prohibits this wherever they can. It's all vintage now?) It might be also just the cable, inverter, quite cheap to replace. Etc. At this stage, I'd say we know not really much about it. Except that more details in the Q would help.
– LangLangC
6 hours ago
I agree, using an external display is another good test!
– Monomeeth♦
5 hours ago
add a comment |
That’s a hard one. It could really be either.
- not the operating system since it’s just the firmware running
- it’s less likely it’s the GPU when you see an issue before the OS loads, but it still could be the GPU.
- it’s more likely the LCD or cabling when there is clear, crips vertical defects
So the tie goes to LCD failure and not GPU if I was forced to guess, but I wouldn’t guess with my money. I would meet the seller with an external display so that you can evaluate before you pay. Or set two prices - the price you pay if it’s the GPU and the price you pay if it's not the GPU. The seller has more information than you, so you don’t want to get taken advantage of. Similarly, you also can’t waste the sellers time if you’re not going to make a legitimate offer once you understand the condition of the goods.
Looking at the form factor there will be no more official Apple products anywhere, except Turkey? (Or other special jurisdictions I do not know about now. But Apple actively prohibits this wherever they can. It's all vintage now?) It might be also just the cable, inverter, quite cheap to replace. Etc. At this stage, I'd say we know not really much about it. Except that more details in the Q would help.
– LangLangC
6 hours ago
I agree, using an external display is another good test!
– Monomeeth♦
5 hours ago
add a comment |
That’s a hard one. It could really be either.
- not the operating system since it’s just the firmware running
- it’s less likely it’s the GPU when you see an issue before the OS loads, but it still could be the GPU.
- it’s more likely the LCD or cabling when there is clear, crips vertical defects
So the tie goes to LCD failure and not GPU if I was forced to guess, but I wouldn’t guess with my money. I would meet the seller with an external display so that you can evaluate before you pay. Or set two prices - the price you pay if it’s the GPU and the price you pay if it's not the GPU. The seller has more information than you, so you don’t want to get taken advantage of. Similarly, you also can’t waste the sellers time if you’re not going to make a legitimate offer once you understand the condition of the goods.
That’s a hard one. It could really be either.
- not the operating system since it’s just the firmware running
- it’s less likely it’s the GPU when you see an issue before the OS loads, but it still could be the GPU.
- it’s more likely the LCD or cabling when there is clear, crips vertical defects
So the tie goes to LCD failure and not GPU if I was forced to guess, but I wouldn’t guess with my money. I would meet the seller with an external display so that you can evaluate before you pay. Or set two prices - the price you pay if it’s the GPU and the price you pay if it's not the GPU. The seller has more information than you, so you don’t want to get taken advantage of. Similarly, you also can’t waste the sellers time if you’re not going to make a legitimate offer once you understand the condition of the goods.
edited 5 hours ago
answered 6 hours ago
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Looking at the form factor there will be no more official Apple products anywhere, except Turkey? (Or other special jurisdictions I do not know about now. But Apple actively prohibits this wherever they can. It's all vintage now?) It might be also just the cable, inverter, quite cheap to replace. Etc. At this stage, I'd say we know not really much about it. Except that more details in the Q would help.
– LangLangC
6 hours ago
I agree, using an external display is another good test!
– Monomeeth♦
5 hours ago
add a comment |
Looking at the form factor there will be no more official Apple products anywhere, except Turkey? (Or other special jurisdictions I do not know about now. But Apple actively prohibits this wherever they can. It's all vintage now?) It might be also just the cable, inverter, quite cheap to replace. Etc. At this stage, I'd say we know not really much about it. Except that more details in the Q would help.
– LangLangC
6 hours ago
I agree, using an external display is another good test!
– Monomeeth♦
5 hours ago
Looking at the form factor there will be no more official Apple products anywhere, except Turkey? (Or other special jurisdictions I do not know about now. But Apple actively prohibits this wherever they can. It's all vintage now?) It might be also just the cable, inverter, quite cheap to replace. Etc. At this stage, I'd say we know not really much about it. Except that more details in the Q would help.
– LangLangC
6 hours ago
Looking at the form factor there will be no more official Apple products anywhere, except Turkey? (Or other special jurisdictions I do not know about now. But Apple actively prohibits this wherever they can. It's all vintage now?) It might be also just the cable, inverter, quite cheap to replace. Etc. At this stage, I'd say we know not really much about it. Except that more details in the Q would help.
– LangLangC
6 hours ago
I agree, using an external display is another good test!
– Monomeeth♦
5 hours ago
I agree, using an external display is another good test!
– Monomeeth♦
5 hours ago
add a comment |
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– Monomeeth♦
7 hours ago
The seller should really show you that mac connected to external screen or offer to let you get it evaluated by a repair shop before you pay money for it. Of course if they’re giving you such a good deal that it doesn’t matter then you can just take the deal. But if they’re selling it as a good machine they should help you verify that.
– bmike♦
6 hours ago
That is what exact model?
– LangLangC
6 hours ago